tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post6403979978041128782..comments2023-11-05T03:31:19.545-08:00Comments on Sideline Views: Hope thinks about itA.C.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03617669285297119500noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-73587713877410389262007-12-22T12:37:00.000-08:002007-12-22T12:37:00.000-08:00Joe, I just saw that Dan blog and OMG that's funny...Joe, I just saw that Dan blog and OMG that's funny stuff!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-59975073232741328082007-12-22T11:43:00.000-08:002007-12-22T11:43:00.000-08:00I really believe that Ryan and his sorority were w...I really believe that Ryan and his sorority were waiting for Solo to make any kind of a mistake to give them an excuse to pounce on her. Their behavior really has nothing to do with Solo's post-game remarks or her alledged "violations". This smells of a fundamental personality conflict between Solo and the rest of the sorority, and her behavior was just the excuse they needed to go after her.<BR/><BR/>If Solo was such a "distraction" and if Scurry was so good, then why not just start Scurry and leave Solo off the team when the WWC started? Ryan's explanations about "team violations" would have made much more sense at that time, if they were indeed that serious. Of course, none of that happened.Joseph D'Hippolitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571554907399914529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-41444765674782538342007-12-22T10:19:00.000-08:002007-12-22T10:19:00.000-08:00Coach, you're correct about more guessing, more qu...Coach, you're correct about more guessing, more questions, more speculation to try to figure out why the shunning took place as it seemed so bizarre. <BR/><BR/>I guess my point in wondering if Kit has been right all along is that Kit seems to have more insider information than he/she is willing to reveal. That just adds fuel to the further speculation that is already out there and may explain why everybody is far from forthcoming.<BR/><BR/>Anyway you look at it, it became a real mess.JT Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03322915801872744069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-80834929186213109202007-12-22T09:30:00.000-08:002007-12-22T09:30:00.000-08:00The violations which some came to light after the ...The violations which some came to light after the blow up, plus the outburst probably justified sending her home and would have been better for everyone including Hope than the drawn out way it was handled. There was some indecision on Ryan's part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-80169549994999937852007-12-22T06:44:00.000-08:002007-12-22T06:44:00.000-08:00If her violations were that serious, yes, sending ...If her violations were that serious, yes, sending her home would be an option.<BR/><BR/>Ryan himself is saying that they were not. <BR/><BR/>So why bring them up now other then to continue to try to shift the blame elsewhere?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-62694675643734357452007-12-22T06:11:00.000-08:002007-12-22T06:11:00.000-08:00Should have just sent her home.Should have just sent her home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-14604450951438621352007-12-22T06:06:00.000-08:002007-12-22T06:06:00.000-08:00jt, that would be more guessing as to what the pro...jt, that would be more guessing as to what the problem may have been, etc, etc. There is ample info out there as to what happened and why. More now after Ryan spoke, which unfortunately contradicts much of what he has previously said so he's not very credible. <BR/><BR/>"If" Hope broke team rules, Ryan should have said so and penalized her accordingly. You don't come out and say this stuff now. Makes Ryan as a coach look even worse then he already did.<BR/><BR/>Repeat for the n'th time. The point many of us have been trying to make for months now is that the shunning went way over the top. His attempt to hide behind "team leaders" was pathetic at best. He as the coach is responsible for this. <BR/><BR/>You don't treat anybody that way, especially someone who has just gone through what Hope went through last summer. <BR/><BR/>This is what many would like to see explained by someone, more than Sunil saying "many wish they had done things differently".<BR/><BR/>Have you come up with a name for that movie? :) <BR/><BR/>Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-63406818486018810702007-12-21T21:28:00.000-08:002007-12-21T21:28:00.000-08:00Coach & Joe, maybe Kit's been right all along. May...Coach & Joe, maybe Kit's been right all along. <BR/><BR/>Maybe Hope got too personal in expressing her displeasure with the decision to go with Scurry. That could have triggered all sorts of team problems and nobody would want to talk about it but they'd want to deal with it internally.JT Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03322915801872744069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-79307882859651355322007-12-21T13:07:00.000-08:002007-12-21T13:07:00.000-08:00Couldn't agree more Joe, so we must uncover the ra...Couldn't agree more Joe, so we must uncover the rat to get rid of the smell!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-2622341840701956222007-12-21T11:02:00.000-08:002007-12-21T11:02:00.000-08:00Whatever Solo's mistakes may have been before her ...Whatever Solo's mistakes may have been before her post-game outburst (staying out late, etc.), they did not warrant the overkill from Ryan and his sorority. Besides, if those "mistakes" were legitimate, longstanding issues, then why did it take so long to deal with them?<BR/><BR/>If those mistakes were legitimate, longstanding issues, then it just goes to reinforce Ryan's and Lilly's gross incompetance in dealing with people.<BR/><BR/>I truly smell a rat, here. I really believe that Ryan, Lilly <I>et al</I> wanted to get back at Solo for something <I>unrelated</I> to her post-game comments.<BR/><BR/>Besides, if Solo broke an "unwritten rule" by criticizing Ryan publicly, isn't Ryan breaking an "unwritten rule" by bringing up previously unpublicized criticisms of Solo long after the fact?<BR/><BR/>The rationale of those supporting Ryan, Lilly and the sorority makes no sense when you examine it.Joseph D'Hippolitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571554907399914529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-53057661679806389382007-12-21T07:56:00.000-08:002007-12-21T07:56:00.000-08:00Yes Meredith, I don't think anybody here thinks Ho...Yes Meredith, I don't think anybody here thinks Hope is perfect but some either can't or won't absorb what others are saying before they post.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, nobody's perfect!;)<BR/><BR/>roflAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-4026088065595106242007-12-21T06:55:00.000-08:002007-12-21T06:55:00.000-08:00i dont think hope is perfect, in fact i like here ...i dont think hope is perfect, in fact i like here edge. Im not saint myself so i relate. she made a mistake and she said she was sorry for it. what i dont like about ryan, is his inabiity to say he made a mistake. I think if he were at least willing to say he should have done things differently or he made a mistake i may have accepted that. At the end of the day, i think the coach can and should hold themselves as responsible for the play of the team. When they place all the blame on the players, it sets off a red flag for meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-10050064902840226602007-12-21T03:39:00.000-08:002007-12-21T03:39:00.000-08:00I leave that final word to you. :(I leave that final word to you. :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-26324547841381723182007-12-20T20:58:00.000-08:002007-12-20T20:58:00.000-08:00The thought processes are simply in a different re...The thought processes are simply in a different realm, on a different playing field if you will.<BR/><BR/>Mine allow for 2 sides to a story dealing with imperfect people on all sids. You refuse to allow that one is not perfect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-58882092086683413792007-12-20T16:12:00.000-08:002007-12-20T16:12:00.000-08:00Ghost,I admire your continued efforts to reach out...Ghost,<BR/><BR/>I admire your continued efforts to reach out to kit and help her/him "get it".<BR/><BR/>I have complete respect for differing opinions & points of view, but when a statement like the one you refer (Hope hiding behind her grief, Saint, Devil, etc.) is made, it just re-affirms the conclusion I made earlier today & frankly these comments repulse me.<BR/><BR/>The thought processes are simply in a different realm, on a different playing field if you will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-60776235988706102432007-12-20T15:50:00.000-08:002007-12-20T15:50:00.000-08:00Kit, We disagree on quite alot, but really part c...Kit, <BR/><BR/>We disagree on quite alot, but really part company when you suggest Hope is "hiding behind her grief". That's beyond the pale, man. <BR/><BR/>One doesn't hide behind the grief that comes of the losses that young woman experienced, you sufffer through it. <BR/><BR/>The differences between Ryan and Solo are primarily two: 1) she had an emotional meltdown at a time when her reserves were very depleated while his meltdown was studied; and 2) she's admitted and appologized for her meltdown and he's spit out this whining revisionist low life interview.<BR/><BR/>She's a young woman who made a mistake, paid a serious price for it, and is trying to move on. Does that make her a saint? Heavens, no: all too human (to borrow from Nietzsche). But Ryan's leaves him a toad.ghostwriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04432818511519917053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-55958805672795997292007-12-20T15:19:00.000-08:002007-12-20T15:19:00.000-08:00mrad, go home!mrad, go home!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-28878623872898811002007-12-20T13:47:00.000-08:002007-12-20T13:47:00.000-08:00Joan - I think Ryan is a man who has made mistakes...Joan - I think Ryan is a man who has made mistakes but has been made out to the devil which isn't fair.<BR/><BR/>I think Hope is a young woman who has made mistakes and has somehow been granted sainthood which is inaccurate as well.<BR/><BR/>As I said before the Ryan article hit, there is more to the story than just the few public remarks. Ryan gave a little hint of what some of the other issues are. Would have been better for him to continue to keep quiet in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>She's hiding behind her grief when there were obviously other issues at work (staying out late, missing team functions doesn't have any thing to do with her dad) which she is/was well aware of. He's hiding behind the team when obviously he bears some responsibility for the state of affairs in China. Somehow she gets a pass and he is satan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-87424883969702662332007-12-20T11:51:00.000-08:002007-12-20T11:51:00.000-08:00joan said... @kit"I find it strange that you place...joan said... <BR/>@kit<BR/>"I find it strange that you place most of the blame for Hope's post-comment treatment on Ryan and then defend him for these spineless comments."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Joan, I believe kit has been a Ryan supporter from the get go. Actually, I originally joked kit was Lilly, now I think he may be Ryan! :/<BR/><BR/>Did I miss something here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-58094416762039976262007-12-20T11:18:00.000-08:002007-12-20T11:18:00.000-08:00No, I don't think Hope should get a pass. But the ...No, I don't think Hope should get a pass. But the reaction of Ryan and her "teammates" to her post-game outburst was way over the top and suggests to me that there was a lot more going on than meets the eye.<BR/><BR/>I believe that Lilly and Wambach led the charge of the Queen B's because Hope was her own woman. She wasn't "one of the girls" (whatever that entails in the WNT context). She is an independent-minded person whose comfortable in her own skin. Such people are threats to anybody steeped in "groupthink," as I believe the WNT was.<BR/><BR/>Sundhage's greatest challenge will be trying to destroy or redirect this groupthink into something positive, something that doesn't eat its teammates.<BR/><BR/>As far as Ryan goes, the only thing he said that was right was the fact that it wouldn't have mattered who was in goal in the semifinals; Brazil was quite obviously the better team. The rest is nothing but a despicable attempt at posterior-covering and scapegoating.<BR/><BR/>Ryan makes Steve Sampson look like Alf Ramsey....Joseph D'Hippolitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571554907399914529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-60492641623485239862007-12-20T09:04:00.000-08:002007-12-20T09:04:00.000-08:00Kit,Well said. Mostly we think similarly about H...Kit,<BR/><BR/>Well said. Mostly we think similarly about Hope's blowup in China.ghostwriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04432818511519917053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-57214599073400057942007-12-20T08:55:00.000-08:002007-12-20T08:55:00.000-08:00He has put the players in a horrible position. The...He has put the players in a horrible position. They are trying to move on but he's thrown this out there and they will be asked to comment about it but they answer to a new coach. <BR/><BR/>It wasn't a very classy thing to do but probably a very human one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-69277128001844445832007-12-20T08:01:00.000-08:002007-12-20T08:01:00.000-08:00well when i read this article, my first instinct a...well when i read this article, my first instinct as a current law student was to say that i hope what he said about hope was actually true and that for his sake the comments dont get legs, because if they are in fact false, its some pretty nasty slander. I agree with ghost, unless the stuff is pure fiction and she is gonna sue his butt, hope should not say anything. The guy is bitter and in job trouble and has nothing to lose by saying this garbage. Let him sink his own ship. I am still curious though to see if any other players comment because he clearly puts the blame of the failure of the wc on their playing abilities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-68668568476834037252007-12-20T07:28:00.000-08:002007-12-20T07:28:00.000-08:00Well, well, well. Ryan Strikes Back. Reminds me ...Well, well, well. Ryan Strikes Back. Reminds me a bit of a George Lucas film and partakes of about the same degree of reality.<BR/><BR/>It'll be interesting to see if this elicits any response from team or coaches (Hope herself, unless she sues the guy, needs to keep her mouth SHUT). At the time the keepers switch was made every other knowledgeable soccer observer criticized his decision. Every one! Including Silvia Neid the WC Champion head coach. Now he says he switched because of 30 or 40 PRACTICE shots?! Presumably on one day. Would you buy a used car from this man? <BR/><BR/>It has been reported that his own goalkeeper coach, Phil Wheddon, opposed the move. And yet Ryan tries to give the impression that his assistants agreed with the decision. Be very interesting to see if they will back his version of events.<BR/><BR/>Now he comes out with allegations against Hope that he admits he told her he was NOT going public with. Whether they are true or not, he must have changed his mind about that, too, just like keepers. Yep, you can see right away he's a man of fine judgment and integrity. This guy wouldn't know a high road if he tripped on one.<BR/><BR/>One thing I will say, though, if the late nights and "other hotel" means Hope was spending time with her boyfriend and missed any team functions as a result, it may go some way toward explaining the failure of the team to rally around her and the severity of the reaction after her outburst. Still, I'd sure want some corroboration of these charges from a more reliable source than this discredited, vengeful FORMER coach before I'd be willing to actually believe such a thing.<BR/><BR/>Since her outburst Solo has said nothing but "it was wrong, I'm sorry". Even in her recent interviews Hope has not raised any further question about the decision, only stated she was not ready for it. So why does Ryan speak now? If this isn't an attempt by a guy to take down with him somebody he thinks cost him a lucrative job, I've never seen one. Not to mention, by raising all these things now, to give Pia Sundhage new controversies to deal with! Kit, with all due respect, the man is a toad.ghostwriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04432818511519917053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5437561489188679737.post-46956621368608792712007-12-20T07:01:00.000-08:002007-12-20T07:01:00.000-08:00Coach is right about practice - for examples see P...Coach is right about practice - for examples see Plaxico Burress or Allen Iverson. <BR/><BR/>If Ryan was concerned about Hope in practice he should have talked to her about it. He should have made more effort or been more aware of what the team was doing outside of practice. Obviously Hope has a rebellious streak and took some liberties she shouldn't have. But it certainly appears that he was out of touch with the team (nobody could tell him about Hope's alleged behavior??) and that is completely unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>Coach: still can't get the article - i you would send it I'd be most appreciative. Thanks -<BR/><BR/> rttimp@comcast.netrtt281https://www.blogger.com/profile/05721089364394391980noreply@blogger.com